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Re: FW: EOL for Concurrency of Acrobat

From:

"Vaters, V. Carol" <[log in to unmask]>

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The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:52:42 -0400

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John,

I suggest that everyone using concurrent Acrobat licenses complain
loudly and bitterly to Adobe, especially those who have  paid for
concurrent maintenance.  There is a rumor that no one is "officially"
complaining to them.

In the meantime, Scott Copus (Western Kentucky University) just started
a wiki dedicated to PDF-related alternative software but it does not yet
include WinPDF.  You may find the wiki a good resource.

http://labman.gac.edu/index.php/PDF_Viewer_and_Creator_Alternatives

Regards,
Carol




-----Original Message-----
From: John Sheshene [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:22 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] FW: EOL for Concurrency of Acrobat

Is any using or planning to use products like WinPDF?
John


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Stark [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:00 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] FW: EOL for Concurrency of Acrobat

Carol,

    The instructional part of UCSD will almost without a doubt be moving
to  more widely deploying the free http://www.primopdf.com Primol pdf
writer with this change.
 
     It has been hard enough to deploy concurrent use windows acrobat
while keeping the free reader for the 99% of needs we have for acrobat
in instructional labs.  And we do control our concurrent use with
Sassafras Keyserver.

   Acrobat 8's changes at first blush seem to make the pain level higher
than supporting 2 PDF creation tools. Only after release will we see for
sure. But I expect this to be counterproductive here to their goals, if
Adobe wants Acrobat/pro everywhere.

 I certainly hope Adobe reconsiders.

  Mike

>Brown University depends on concurrent licenses for our Acrobat 7.
What other institutions will be sharing the same pain once Acrobat 8 is
released?
> 
>Thanks,
>Carol Vaters
>Hardware Acquisition/Software Licensing
>Brown University
>Ofc:    401.863.7476
>eFax:   320.306.0974
> 
> 
> 
>
>From: Peggy Snyder [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:22 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [LICENSING] FW: EOL for Concurrency
>
>Hello,
>Creative Suite and other Adobe products will continue to offer
concurrent licenses. If you have a concurrent license for Creative
Suite, that product can still be managed concurrently. If you purchase
the new Creative Suite with Acrobat 8, concurrent licenses will still be
available.
>
>The change in concurrency only impacts licenses of Acrobat 8.
>If you had concurrent licenses under CLP 4.5 for Acrobat, you will lose
concurrent rights with Acrobat 8. You should have received communication
from Adobe about this change.
>
>Sorry of any confusion.
>Peggy
>
>Peggy Snyder
>Director, Education Sales
>Adobe Systems Incorporated
>801 N. 34th St.
>Seattle, WA 98103
>ph:206-675-7213
>[log in to unmask]
><http://www.adobe.com/education>http://www.adobe.com/education
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 9/21/06 8:59 AM, "Kevin Farrell" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>There's a pdf on the web-site that Adobe directs you to in the e-mail
with a bit more information.  There are certainly some concerns.  One of
my clients brought up the question of how Creative Suite and Production
Studio concurrent licenses will be affected, since Acrobat Pro is
included in each.
>Kevin Farrell
>SHI
>
>From: Mark Chropufka
[<mailto:[log in to unmask]]>mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:51 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [LICENSING] FW: EOL for Concurrency
>
>Just wanted to share an email I received from Adobe.  Is anyone aware
of this and have you received a similar message?  
>I am quite surprised that Adobe would be dropping concurrent licensing
for Acrobat.
> 
>Mark
> 
>
>
>From: Simon Jones [<mailto:[log in to unmask]]>mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:33 AM
>To: Simon Jones
>Subject: EOL for Concurrency
>
>
>    
>  Adobe  Volume Licensing   
> 
>  
>
>
>    
>
> Dear Acrobat  Customer,
>
>Today, Adobe is announcing that concurrent  licensing will no longer be
available for the Adobe Acrobat family  of products, starting with the
general availability of Version 8.  This announcement only affects the
Acrobat product family. All other  concurrent licenses (non-Acrobat)
remain the same. As valued  customers, we want to communicate this
change to you and help to  make the transition from concurrent licensing
easy and  seamless.
>
>Adobe Acrobat usage has become nearly ubiquitous;  Acrobat users have
shown a growing preference for wanting to be able  to use the software
whenever they need it - online or offline.  Therefore, Acrobat usage no
longer lends itself well to a concurrent  usage model - which works best
for task-specific tools. Purchasing  patterns over the last few years
have confirmed this shifting user  preference; for example, as the
number of Acrobat users in the  Education marketplace has increased, the
proportion using concurrent  licenses has dropped 40%.
>
>To aid in the transition from  concurrent licensing, you will receive
three Acrobat 8 regular  non-concurrent licenses for each Acrobat 7
concurrent license if you  have concurrent Acrobat licenses currently
covered under the Upgrade  Plan. These Acrobat 8 licenses will each
continue to carry Upgrade  Plan coverage for the remainder of the term
for your paid Upgrade  Plan. If you have concurrent licenses that are
not covered under the  Upgrade Plan, you may continue to use your
Acrobat 7 licenses  concurrently; however, there is no special
transition plan for  concurrent licenses that are not covered under the
Upgrade Plan. For  further information about this transition plan,
please visit our website
<http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/licensing_program.html><http:
//www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/licensing_program.html> .
>
>Adobe  thanks you for your continued business and looks forward to
providing you with innovative software in ways that meet your needs.  
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Adobe Licensing
>
>This is an outgoing  e-mail address only.   
>
>  
>
> EULA  Information
>Use of all Adobe products is governed  by the terms and conditions of
the relevant End User License  Agreement
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s> .  Returns are governed by the Returns  Policy
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/support/service/returns.html> .
>
>Customer Support
>If you have questions or need  support, please complete and submit this
form
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>
>Further details on  Adobe Open Options, can be found on the Adobe
website
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e.com/aboutadobe/openoptions/index.html> . To place additional volume
licensing orders, contact  your Adobe License Center or Adobe reseller.
To  place orders through the CLP program, you will need your CLP
membership number, to ensure you are credited with the correct  discount
level.
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Mike Stark    U.C. San Diego, Academic Computing Services
Manager, Microsupport & Software Distribution
Voice (858) 534-4060   Fax (858) 534-7018     AP&M 1220
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