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Re: SPSS license

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Laura Walsh <[log in to unmask]>

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The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:46:07 -0500

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Shahra;

Carnegie Mellon University does have a committee to make decisions.  Here is
some additional information.

http://www.cmu.edu/computing/software/Advisory_board.htm

(BTW - we call our computer labs--clusters)

Laura Walsh
Software Licensing and Contract Manager
Computing Services
Carnegie Mellon University
5000 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412.268.1422
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-----Original Message-----
From: Shahra Meshkaty [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:46 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] SPSS license

Thank you again Thomas,
This is exactly the information that i need to start with.
Only one quick question I have is that if you have a particular 
committee made up of departments/college representative that serve as 
advisors to acquisition of software?
shahra


At 02:33 PM 12/6/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Shahra,
>At UCLA very few software products are centrally funded, and the ones
>that are tend to be those that are for the greater good such as
>anti-virus, anti-spyware, patch management, etc.  Most other campus-wide
>software agreements that we do are basically done by collectivizing the
>shared need of all departments on campus for particular product, using
>that collective volume as leverage to get the best pricing and terms
>possible, then sharing the total cost among the departments that need
>the product. The cost sharing is generally based upon the number of
>licenses that a department needs.  For example, if we have collective
>need for 1,000 licenses for Product X, and the total cost of
>implementing the campus agreement for that product is $100,000, then the
>shared cost paid by the participating departments would be $100/license.
>This process is easier in the saying than in the doing, but we do find
>it to be the most equitable method of cost sharing for our needs.  I
>hope this helps.
>
>
>Thomas J. Trappler
>Director, UCLA Software Licensing
>UCLA Office of Information Technology
>5905 Math Sciences, Los Angeles, CA  90095-1557
>PH: 310-825-7516, FX: 310-825-6979
>Email: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Shahra Meshkaty [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:48 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [LICENSING] SPSS license
>
>Thank you Thomas,
>I did in fact do a search on the archive and got a good sense for
>concerns that many of us are sharing.
>To pursuit the dilemma of licensing, share of cost was something that
>I came across in several of the archives. I posted another question
>to the list asking for a matrix that other campuses may be using to
>share the cost of certain software. I am hoping that if i put
>together a list of some major universities or ones at the size of
>ours (7000 FTE or private catholic), then i could convince the
>provost or deans that we need to share some of the cost with
>departments/colleges that predominantly use certain packages. But I
>need to know what others are doing and how do they break down the
>cost. Do they go normally half and half or what formula is used if
>any. Your advise is appreciated.
>
>thanks
>shahra
>
>At 12:28 PM 12/6/2006, you wrote:
> >Hi Shahra,
> >I think you've sent your question to the right list, unfortunately I
> >don't think there's a good/easy answer to your question.  SPSS has been
> >a subject of much concern to and discussion by this many members of
>this
> >group because we are all pretty much facing the same problems with
>SPSS.
> >SPSS was also a major point of discussion at our annual meeting this
> >past October.  I think if you search the email archives of this list
>you
> >will at least be able to get a good idea of the history of the issues
> >that have been discussed.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thomas J. Trappler
> >Director, UCLA Software Licensing
> >UCLA Office of Information Technology
> >5905 Math Sciences, Los Angeles, CA  90095-1557
> >PH: 310-825-7516, FX: 310-825-6979
> >Email: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Shahra Meshkaty [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:39 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: [LICENSING] SPSS license
> >
> >I hope that i am posting to the correct listserve to ask this question.
> >I am trying to solicit some feedback from those of you with SPSS
> >licensing experience (pricing, maintenance and service fees).
> >On our campus we are getting increased demands for use of SPSS but
> >with our current license status, it seems enormously costly. We
> >currently have about>200-250 licenses floating around between the PC
> >labs and individual faculty members plus 50 copies in Macintosh lab.
> >Any solution, advise and suggestion is appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Shahra Meshkaty
> >Information Technology Services
> >Interim Director of Academic Technology Services
> >WebCT Administrator
> >Maher 192, X2298
> >
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Shahra Meshkaty
University of San Diego
Information Technology Services
Maher Hall 192
619 260 2298 

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