Hi Everyone,

Was with Microsoft at their EBC recently.  A high-level summary.  We are a Google campus, so we are going to ride out our contract until we need to move to the new model.



Regards,

Orlando

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On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Ruth Ginzberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Particularly because a lot of work-study jobs are Federal financial aid.

 

 

Ruth Ginzberg

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From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[log in to unmask]EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Becky Klein
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:48 PM
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Exactly.  I'm not comfortable with IT having to track the duties of student positions for the purpose of licensing.  We shouldn't know a lot of that kind of information.

 

-Becky

 

 

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:43 PM, Ruth Ginzberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

The need to count student workers and identify them as either “light” or “knowledge” workers is extremely troublesome.

 

I don’t know about other institutions, but at the institutions with which I’m familiar student jobs are often extremely transient.  A student might be making a spreadsheet of Professor X’s lab results one day and cleaning rodent cages the next day.  And by the following week the student may have gotten a different job entirely, perhaps taking tickets at athletic events.  Some students do “seasonal” work at their school; for example working in the Registrar’s office for 2 weeks before and 2 weeks after the beginning of Fall semester.  Then they may work for the Registrar again for 1 week at the beginning of Spring semester.  How are you going to keep track of which students use computers (and how much, for how long) at their work-study jobs on campus?

 

Egads.

 

 

Ruth Ginzberg

608-890-3961

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[log in to unmask]EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Becky Klein
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Microsoft

 

We found out through our sales rep (not CDW-G), and yes - the changes will cost most groups more.  It's not just a straight headcount, because that's what our previous agreement was.  There are "knowledge workers" and "light users"; the latter falling in categories they suggest like facilities management, dining services, etc.  In theory that sounds nice, but it leaves a lot of questions regarding adjunct faculty, classroom and lab use, etc.  We've also been advised that we have to count grad student workers at this point (even if they're doing the same work as undergrads), so I expect at some point we'll have to count all student workers who do any kind of work at a computer.

 

-Becky Klein

 

 

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Hart, Michael <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

We got a heads-up from CDW-G, as we purchase our MS licensing through them.  We’re lucky to have three years left on our current agreement, so it gives us some time and leverage.  I’m assuming our MS reps will be pushing us to move over to the new model, and we may be able to use this to obtain some incentives. 

 

What I’ve heard about the new Knowledge Worker model is that we’ll be needing licensing for actual employee headcount, but that there are some more advanced E5 features included in that model. 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[log in to unmask]EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ruth Ginzberg
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For those who have access to Gartner documents, there’s a new one about the Microsoft Higher Ed licensing changes published 22 February 2018 ID: G00349387

 

It may be worth reading if you can get your hands on it, regardless of what your renewal strategy or timeframe might to be.

 

It shows very clearly where Microsoft’s licensing/subscription changes could cost your institution a lot of money if you’re not paying attention.

 

Ruth Ginzberg, CISSP, CTPS

Sr. I.T. Procurement Specialist

University of Wisconsin System

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